Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. And PR Beyonder is possibly the most ridiculously powerful. PR Beyonder>PR MM>LT. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. at the time "Don't make me post a pic of you in that one armor. Forums. Follow 3935. lizyatearita. 13 years ago. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. Outside of TOAA, this is the only time and the only being with the right power to top PR Beyonder, imo. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. The Beyonder was literally the most powerful entity in the Marvel universe before he was retconned. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. PR Beyonder is comparable to at least 3 magicians combined, he stomps unbelievably hardPR Beyonder changed the entirety of the universe at his whim. (unless he wills himself otherwise alla Rachel Summers. is TOAA, or at least part of him. . Elaine seems to stomp everyone else, but can she defeat PR Beyonder? Nihilist. Reviews: 1. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. Post-Retcon Beyonder on the other hand is only a Cube Being, so is much weaker. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. Follow 7842. Forum Posts. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. Kryptonian (Superman) 2. The camera zooms out of the celebrating teens only to show PRB above them with puppet strings in his hands. A. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. Follow 8649. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Don't worry give it couple of hours and you will see people saying that Odin solo the scpverse Anyway I meant that R3 = R4 = R5, TOAA. 13 years ago. Ite. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. Gen. Follow 75. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. I don't think Living Tribunal was there, neither was oblivion. Mate living tribunal has killed the beyonder. Michael and Lucy. Elaine Belloc; HOTU ThanosCant find this either O_O; Im sure this was done though. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. 15. 5. 3rd. 0. 14 years ago Lance. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. Just wanna point out, nexus beyonder is a thing, the goblin queen merged with beyonder corpse and gained part of his essence. PR Beyonder was specifically the sum total of a multiverse that dwarfs the Marvel multiverse. 6 years ago. Best Answer. Doom. Air Legend. 0. Likewise, nothing in Toaru would even constitute a threat to the lowliest monsters in the Scarlet King's army. Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. Trust me bud, and until you have scans, it ain’t true. 0. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. Still "omniverse" is a nonsense. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. Wiki Points. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Round 1: No prep time. ago. With just the Beyonders it would be a good battle and "might" even favor the DC trio for the win. The thing is , Beyonder shrugged off a blast that "would have destroyed 1 million dimensions". Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. green_skaar. Funny, didn. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. PR Beyonder by feats and by on-panel dialogue. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Victory by permanent death or erasure. Lucifer Morningstar rated 1A. Round 1: Molecule Man from the pre-retcon Beyonder era. The Crimson King. m99. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. I don't know a. A universe that is more powerful. PR Beyonder was crazy powerful, and i have seen threads where he would beat thought robot superman. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Decoy Elite: Hey,Disco suits were B. Also, I'm using PR Beyonder before he was retconned into a cosmic cube. I’m goin wit Batman. I would say as well TOAA seems "more" omnipotent then Presence. The Ivory Kings are still not at PRB's level, and shouldn't be regarded as his equals, let alone his superiors. Wiki Points. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. 10 months ago. i mean ya the pr beyonder and dr solar are apparently omnipotent , but you should not forget the phoenix . Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. PR Beyonder - rendered 3 dimensional and was upset by it and confused by it once he left his Beyond realm and entered Marvels multiverse. The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. Especially. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. So because of Doom holding back, Michael can win. I didn't say he was TOAA himself *face palm* BEYONDER was TOAA before TOAA existed BEYONDER was him (TOAA) in his own. BEYONDERGOD. #1. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. Unless its stated Some ware that PR Beyonder is TTOA or has met and defeated (even if its of panel) True LT or Primal Force. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Destroying the metaverse, which is stated to be. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. Who is a better god like figure? PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. 11 years ago. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. When Thor had the Odin Force, all I had really seen him do. Wiki Points. Brainiac is a hive consciousness that. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. 0. So currently it doesn’t matter if you take PR-Beyonder or the current one, both are from the beyond - and as such subjects to the Phoenix‘ judgement and rely on her to exist. Doctor Manhattan couldn't really affect the Beyonder with any of his powers while the Beyonder can break the laws of nature and. Home Lists Doctor Manhattan Vs. When Goku fought Tao the second time, at that point, I think Goku was stronger than Master Roshi was when they fought at the. #6 Edited By icecream1991. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. level 2 · 1y. i wanna hear mr. 0. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. I'm using universe very loosely here; we're probably on the scale of. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space,. Protege and Mad Jim Jaspers are kind of wild cards. Forum Posts. Follow 25782. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. Adding God Doom is just too much. •Beyonder is infinitely bigger than the whole multiverse [which has infinite number of universe in it]. LT was literally powerless, didn't even try to battle him. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . Mad Jim Jaspers Vs. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Forum Posts. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. 1. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. Doom, and Constantine team up, trick Presence into coming to Marvel Universe where he isn't. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder absolutely evaporates John Constantine from existence, then brings him back, only to evaporate him again. master. Battle has been done so many damn times. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . He could quite literally blink Dr Manhattan out of existence. He was always holding back, but it seems pr beyonder has issues with magic in marvel. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. Reviews. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. This is hard to tell. 4 years ago. Minor nitpick. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. Lucifer and Michael are powerhouses but so is PR Beyonder. Beerus might have trouble with thor, shazam, and POSSIBLY wonder woman due to their godly and magical nature, the rest of the list(up to ten) is easy as pie. Primal monitor has done zilch, but its implied that he was similar to PR beyonder. He's more PR Beyonder level imo. Phoenix is on par with those guys. PR Beyonder is just as much close to some of TOAA's powers as HOTU Thanos is. So just assume that this the PR version of the Beyond realm. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. 14 years ago Lance. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Followers. Forums. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. Follow 8935. Marvel has stated that Beyonder is the TOAA of his own reality and the Marvel Universe is only a droplet of water compared to that reality or something to that effect. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. not_anakin. Having incubated. @mazeraiii said: Beyonder solo's. " 13 years ago Pr_BeyonderRandom encounter. RULES:Morals off. 13 years. Since his feats and stuff have. Darkseid depends, but i think a hakai would destroy an avatar. Yet, is not responsible for creation. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. More recently in some versions TOAA has got more anti feats that PRB in terms of power, with Thanos events involving TOAA go. Lucifer WINS. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that he. He was so powerful that nothing in the Marvel Multiverse. You can't claim the same about Asura's. Follow 3068. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. And of course the LT himself. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Followers. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. Pr beyonder. PR Beyonder shrugged of a shot that "would have slagged a few million entire dimensions" fired by the only other dude would could have leveled such a thing (PR Molecule Man). #23 Edited By MrDirector786. PR Beyonder had every single abstract and Living Tribunal at his knees. And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. The beyonder should be able to Reply CyberpunkV2077 • Additional comment actions. Beyonder 39%. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. A character debated as though his guns can kill the beyonder, one of the few characters people consider to be able to take on the beyonder or hurt the beyonder. PM not so much. PR Beyonder was 2nd only to TOAA before being retconned and would erase protege from existence. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. Trigon took over 12 universes as a child and destroyed countless more. Apr 2014. Location. Copy. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. 13 years ago. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. No. One on one, most people would say that PR. 3rd. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Manhattan's league. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Anime/Manga TeamSuper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Elder God Demonbane, Giorno Giovanna (Gold Experience Requiem), Majin Dark Schneide. 0. Crypto@daak1212 said: "@Danilo018 said: "@Pr_Beyonder said: Juggs has become a victim of the hulk affect and is to him former self as the hulk is to Bruce He is taken to neutral plane where cyttorak can. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. The Beyonder is at full power and wants to destroy the universe, you can assemble a team of 10 cosmic beings from Marvel and DC to stop him, out of t. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Adm1ralSnackbar. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. Fulcrum. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. vs. 2 years ago. The unfortunate thing is that Lucifer and Michael best most of the characters listed there,and only really get stalemated by like 2. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. she is not omnipotent, but PR beyonder and TOAA are, and PR beyonder is at LT level, which means TOAA wins. Forum Posts. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. Thanos (HOTU) Very debatable. Follow 26437. So. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Another statement made about. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Yeah PR Beyonder is completely broken Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. 313. I need to know please New Comics. Dr. "@Pr_Beyonder: michael created the but lucifer gave it form, basically its like michael has the universe creating energy but lucifer can manipulate that energy into things,. . Gen. Team 1 wins. . Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. Karkus. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Followers. PR Beyonder. IMO, PR Beyonder can outdo anything Bill can do and more. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. Follow 25782. @laflux said: MOM. All are at maximum power fight is to the death or ko. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. His isn't from another universe. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. This puts Beyonder at LT+ with MM a close second, followed by the Beyonders and HOTU. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. Forum Posts. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. Oblivion is just another aspect of Death and Beyonder removed her from reality just like he would Oblivion. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. @majestic99. Follow 16064. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @FLCL1 said: " @demifiend said: " current mohamed ali "he beats his ass "Muhammad Ali would kick kick ass's ass. Childlike and vastly powerful, he grew up in a universe created by the other Beyonders for their young. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. Bait? 1 year ago. New Comics. "@Decoy Elite: sorry for bumping this thread but I needed to reply to. Lucifer is stated to be second ONLY TO THE JEWISH GOD (Yahweh). The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. The original purpose of PR Beyonder was an equal of TOAA from his own Actuality. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. 0. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). Pokergeist. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Victory by permanent death or erasure. He killed Death for fun which still left LT powerless. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. Hard to call in terms of power. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. The art work and what not is horrible. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. 8551. If Doom goes at full confidence in. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. Round 1: CAS vs. @lariend said: Missmatch any from team 2 can solo. ago.